The East Indian Community

Original Inhabitants of Bombay, Salsette & Thana.

Why is our community backward as compared to Goans and Mangloreans?

Posted by Sunil Barretto on February 5, 2010 at 6:25 AM

As an east indian , i have to painfully accept the fact that we east-indians as a community are lagging behind Goans and Mangloreans  in terms of education, financial status, and general upward mobilty ?

 

We start in the same schools , get the same oppurtunities but somewhere along the way we fall behind. This blog is not for self-humiliation but to do some soul searching and perhaps find some answers so that our children do not commit the same mistakes that we did.

 

Await your opinions.

 

regards

Sunil 

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53 Comments

Reply Loretta Ferreira D'Souza
12:33 PM on February 9, 2010 
You are right Sunil.....I guess we were sitting on our laurels as "The Bombay East Indians" and forget to move forward, It's time to encourage our children to move forward and do not make the same mistakes.
Take care!
Reply Ivy Malcolm Fernandes
3:44 AM on February 10, 2010 
We are lagging behind as there is no unity amongst our East Indians. We are like crabs trying to pull one another down. We do not want to help our own people.
Reply Tony
1:58 PM on February 11, 2010 
because we are not hard working
Reply Anita D'
1:56 AM on February 12, 2010 
I humbly request my East Indian Bretheren NOT to sell their ancestral properties to other communities and move out from your original locality making space and place for the other communities to fill in OUR very own land - Bombay. If for some reason you have to give up your property, then give it to the builders for redeveloping the place and ask for your share but please please DO NOT shift your base from your original base. There are chances that we want to settle abroad but towards the twilight of our lives, we do have a strong urge to shift back to our roots and where will our roots be when we have disposed our properties to settle abroad? So please do ponder on this humble request so that our future generations will not be in the dark about our community and our cultures.
Thankyou.
Reply Sunil Barretto
3:49 AM on February 12, 2010 
While it a noble thought not to sell off ancestral properties, the fact remains that in city like Mumbai there is tremendous demand for land. There will always be pressure in the form of fear of encroachment / good offers to dispose of the property. Also land does not increase in size with the passage of times whereas families and shareholders do. The pie remains the same but the stakeholders increase. There are ?n? number of family disputes in the Bandra Civil Court involving east Indians. These court cases have sapped the energy / financial resources of our families and caused enmity among family members. We need to get over this obsession for ?Ancestral Property?. The other communities came to Mumbai, got their children educated and bought flats whereas east Indians have been building partitions in their houses to accommodate the newly married couple. Even when they have the money, they do not buy a flat in the fear that if they do, then they will lose their share in the ancestral property. It?s time we stopped living off our ancestors and create something of our own for the future generations.
Reply Anita D'
4:48 AM on February 12, 2010 
Very very well thought about and congrats for having placed ur thoughts for us all to read and ponder upon.
Sunil Barretto says...
While it a noble thought not to sell off ancestral properties, the fact remains that in city like Mumbai there is tremendous demand for land. There will always be pressure in the form of fear of encroachment / good offers to dispose of the property. Also land does not increase in size with the passage of times whereas families and shareholders do. The pie remains the same but the stakeholders increase. There are ?n? number of family disputes in the Bandra Civil Court involving east Indians. These court cases have sapped the energy / financial resources of our families and caused enmity among family members. We need to get over this obsession for ?Ancestral Property?. The other communities came to Mumbai, got their children educated and bought flats whereas east Indians have been building partitions in their houses to accommodate the newly married couple. Even when they have the money, they do not buy a flat in the fear that if they do, then they will lose their share in the ancestral property. It?s time we stopped living off our ancestors and create something of our own for the future generations.
Reply Sunil Barretto
5:05 AM on February 12, 2010 
you are welcome , anita
Reply Arun Dube
12:18 PM on February 12, 2010 
Trust me, there is no difference between the East Indians and the others in terms of education. The only difference I have perceived is of the mindset. East indians must stop feeling sorry for themselves and realise that they have a headstart over the others because they have the support of their immediate and extended families in Bombay. It is not true that East Indians like to pull each other down. While that is true in some cases, it is also true among all the communities because human nature is the same regardless of the communities. What needs to be done is for the East Indians to be a little more enterprising. When some members start doing well in business, the others will be motivated to follow so let us not drown ourselves in self-inflicted sorrow and start thinking positively.
Reply Wickiam
12:43 AM on February 13, 2010 
Arun Dube says...
Trust me, there is no difference between the East Indians and the others in terms of education. The only difference I have perceived is of the mindset. East indians must stop feeling sorry for themselves and realise that they have a headstart over the others because they have the support of their immediate and extended families in Bombay. It is not true that East Indians like to pull each other down. While that is true in some cases, it is also true among all the communities because human nature is the same regardless of the communities. What needs to be done is for the East Indians to be a little more enterprising. When some members start doing well in business, the others will be motivated to follow so let us not drown ourselves in self-inflicted sorrow and start thinking positively.
Reply Wickiam
1:01 AM on February 13, 2010 
Bang on Target Mr. Arun, thankyou very much for the postive towards our community.

One thing which I am thinking for long and which bothers me is we are not encouraging our children to be actively involved in our church activity.

Being active in our local chuch activity gives our children a basic platform to face the world outside. They will only gain and loss nothing for sure.

This goes for us (Elders) also, At present most of us have a CRITIC atitude, we harp upon being the founders of the church and do nothing, sit down in our house/gauthan and only speak "during our time we use to do this and that." What has happen to us now.

Lets forget everything lets start afresh.

Thanking you all for realizing the fact and showing concern.
Reply Sunil Barretto
1:13 AM on February 15, 2010 
Wow Arun, Perfect analysis.
Reply Arun Dube
1:40 AM on February 15, 2010 
Sunil Barretto says...
Wow Arun, Perfect analysis.

Thanks, Sunil, but something must be done. Merely exchanging views on this blog will not lead us anywhere. Since you are in Bombay, I think you should get in touch with Dimensions, the organisation of Christian businesspersons, and see how the members have progressed. I have already given you the names of the contact persons and their mobile numbers. Get in touch with them and you will see for yourself how networking among Christians has helped the members.
Reply dcruz audie
3:27 AM on February 17, 2010 
its true sunil, i have many gaon & mangolrean friends they look forward in life, we look to ourselves. they have a high level of participation in Church activities and reap the benefits of it, we back talk about them,let us learn from them and understand how they move forward in life compared to us.
Reply Arun Dube
6:46 AM on February 17, 2010 
Audie,
You are correct. I too have many Goan and Mangalorean friends and most of them are doing well. While many of them participate in Church activities, they don't rely on the Church to help them in their work. The Church is a good support but one must make one's own future. I don't see any obstacle in the path of an East Indian if he or she wants to do well in business. The only slight hitch is the mindset. If you think you will be successful in business and are prepared to work hard, nothing can stop you.
Reply Desmond Patel
8:50 PM on February 19, 2010 
I am East Indian and done B.Tech. & M.Tech. from top institutions - ITBHU (IIT) & ISI. I have worked with Tata Steel & Crompton Greaves. Currently I'm in New Zealand and have worked in Sydney, Australia as well.
I think there are many East Indians doing well in India or abroad and they are highly educated but somehow our people don't know about them.
Reply Desmond Patel
8:53 PM on February 19, 2010 
Better life, however, comes from hard work and determination. Some are born intelligent or healthy. But most people at the top are there due to their hard work, persistence and some luck.
Reply Desmond Patel
8:55 PM on February 19, 2010 
Typos in my earlier reply: it should be "wealthy" instead of "healthy"
Reply Gregory DSouza
11:12 PM on February 22, 2010 
Desmond Patel says...
I am East Indian and done B.Tech. & M.Tech. from top institutions - ITBHU (IIT) & ISI. I have worked with Tata Steel & Crompton Greaves. Currently I'm in New Zealand and have worked in Sydney, Australia as well.
I think there are many East Indians doing well in India or abroad and they are highly educated but somehow our people don't know about them.
Reply Gregory DSouza
11:25 PM on February 22, 2010 
[I am East Indian and done B.Tech. & M.Tech. from top institutions - ITBHU (IIT) & ISI. I have worked with Tata Steel & Crompton Greaves. Currently I'm in New Zealand and have worked in Sydney, Australia as well.
I think there are many East Indians doing well in India or abroad and they are highly educated but somehow our people don't know about them.
[/Desmond Patel]

Yes Desmond,we may have many highly educated EIs,The question is how to find out?My daughter is MSc.(Statistics),Gold medalist with hons; searching for a suitable match for the past 3 years!
Greg.
Reply Ivy Malcolm Fernandes
12:13 AM on February 24, 2010 
I feel that we should have a matrimonial section wherein many East Indians who are intending to get married may find a suitable match.

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